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BCAAs from supplements cause disease.
And what about people who exercise regularly, in particular people who do resistance exercise? How does that also affect insulin resistance? And, plant-based diets in relation to that?
what's that about FGF21?
Interesting, Thx…..Whole plant based foods on Instagram == mikewakethefoodup
Looking forward to FGF21!
Super helpful thanks!
go back to voice-over vids
And there you have an entire instavirus fitness industry where every second „influencer“ wants to sell his/her protein and BCAA powder. 🤢😭
New Year resolution is to eat healthier based on all these fantastic videos and books you have done. Thanks again for all the hard work that you and your team do.
Meathead: look at my muscles!Me: it's all marbled tho…
It'd be good to see if this is also true for athletes and for people doing resistance training. Just a thought.
Hm, then how is it possible for people to reverse T2 diabetes on a high fat diet?
Not sure why so many people in the comment section are talking about bcaa and EAA supplements. This video doesn’t address that subject.
I'm not gonna believe bcaa are unhealthy until we compare pumpkin seeds (super high in bcaa) to whey to any beans. Seriously the science ive seen on the idea of bcaa being unhealthy contradict exercise being healthy
4:30 forrest plots aka James Wilks plots
A lot of this is also shown by Dr. Valter Longo in his research. He also recommends plant protein, lower protein levels, on a largely vegan diet. I like it when different researchers come up with the same results.
0.8g protein per kg bodyweight is not optimal for muscle building, although it will get you into a positive nitrogen balance. For the normal pleb that doesnt lift weights, this is probably enough, but you need more if you are lifting (1-1.2g per kg bodyweight) to build muscle optimally. It also depends on your general metbolic rate. Someone burning 5000 calories a day needs a lot more protein than someone burning only 3000 calories a day.
As a woman who strength trains, does an elevated intake of protein (70g per day) have the same negative effects? I do cardio and weight training. My protein is all plant-based but is 70g too much?
So are all those paleo and keto crying enthusiasts talking about how wonderful they do a bunch of liars or delusional? The studies just keep coming out damaging yet the enthusiasm just keeps growing. They really believe they feel better.
Love this!!! ❤️
thanks doctor，thanks 张筱菊。
Looks like Dr. Gregor knows how to read a forest plot.
Here's what I'm not totally understanding here. If you eat .7 – 1.2 g/kg bodyweight of plant protein (this is the standard fitness world recommendation, which in most cases will be well above 56 g/day), and you don't have diabetes, and don't supplement with BCAAs, does any of this apply?
No cuts, no edits, one take!! You're a master Dr Greger! It shows you speak from the heart!
Is there a difference between vegan BCAAs and animal-derived BCAAs?
Always a bonus having a new Dr Greger video.Keeps me on the strait and narrow nutrition wise.
How about bodybuilders, we eat a lot of protein and stay lean?
Does anyone know of youtube channels that break down literature from other fields like endocrinology, cell biology, etc.?
Can you talk about studies for muscle building using plant vs animal protein?
Bodybuilding culture believes they need almost 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight. Is this unfounded? For someone building muscle how much more protein do you really need?
Is there any science comparing vegan BCAA’s to animal sourced? I bought into the bcaa hype and got a vegan one thinking it would spare muscle mass during training but I’m starting to think it’s useless based on what you’re saying here.
Great video! I am just wondering as I resistance train 4 times a week, does this have the same effect? In terms of total protein needed and BCAAs should we increase the amounts for performance, muscle growth and repair or stick to daily recommended? Thanks 🙂
But I don't know how to read forest plots 🤣
Happy New Year to Dr. Greger and the NurtitionFacts.org team! Thank you for starting the year off with this fact-filled video. It helps to keep me motivated and on track.
Sooo.. should I take BCAA supplements or not?
Your theory is great, but where is your muscle?? Seems the reality is little bit different than your studies show…
Gollum in a suit.. Look at his eyes, looks so bad these days..
This guy does this all the time. He brings up studies and skews the conclusions. Just because people lost more weight with less protein does not prove anything. That weight could have been muscle weight, water weight or anything of that nature.. When you make conclusions like that you lose creditability
Greger says it, people believe it. It’s a symbiotic relationship between a douche & the orifice
Could u do a video on optimum protein requirements to build.muscle?
After seeing this I'm glad I switched to plant-based.
Every MD should watch this to better counsel their diabetic patients.
My WFPB hero !
My guess is they lost muscle mass. But, hey, it's a better scoop saying they lost more in weight.
Not exactly a screaming recommendation to go out and buy a bunch of BCAA supplements.
Do one on creatine and body building pretty please!!! It really seems to help and making progress in the gym helps us argue for the WFPB diet!
HALLO DOC, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT GLUTATHIONE?
If factory farmed animals are fed grains then why do they get marbling?
New Year – New Me =)
Love to meet this doc! From South Africa…. we are a bit behind in trends. Am changing my diet slowly to a plant based diet. Tofu, lentils.., not easily available. Vegetarian places, you have to search far and wide.
The Great Protein Fiasco
I am a whole foods plant based vegan, no oil, no gluten. My A1C is 4.5 and I'm 8lbs overweight. I eat a lot of plant protein, and tons of carbs. I have perfect blood work. I'm 53 and med free.
But people were not eating protein in isolation, they were eating food. I think this entire video, and its title is misleading at best. In fact, I think it falls into one of Dr G's biggest criticisms, reductionist thinking.
This dude is so ungrounded it is absolutely crazy
But did the study control for fat and saturated fat intake, not just protein, in the study?
It is all in the food.
everyone has said belly fat is the worst… does this dispute that generalization?
so ican eat a snickers bar right? or is it only for the normal protein group…🤔
Great content thank you for all this effort
Спасибо за русские субтитры 🙂Thanks for making russian subtitles 🙂PS: I wish we had more doctors like Mr. Michael Greger everywere in the world 👍
Wait what. I shouldn't even be eating the recommended daily protein amount? I workout 4 days a week (nothing crazy but for an hour at the gym) and I should be eating LESS protein than even the recommended amount?
I love it when they compare a healthy versus of a vegan diet vs a non healthy omnivore diet. Lol geez i wonder what the outcome will be. Why don’t you compare two healthy diets for once?
I'm really skeptical with him outright saying the fat person thigh was healthier than the muscular person thigh… The image seems to be taken from an entirely separate study, so I don't understand how he can make that conclusion.
Wassup Doc?! Thank you for all your work. It is deeply appreciated. Happy New Year! God bless.
I just saw this a couple of days after I bought BCAA and whey protein… so whatever I mean. 🙁
Just passed my gestational diabetes test eating a whole foods plant based diet. I tracked my own glucose levels for 2 weeks. There were some days where my blood sugar spiked quite high after eating a large meal of refined carbohydrates. However, I eat lower protein and lower fat, so I wasn’t that worried about it. The midwife still suggested I eat more protein 😂
Sais Bugs Bunny..This guy seems sicker and sicker..Ofc u loose weight when u cut animal protein,animals are for fast weight up
The control group also gained a small amount of muscle while the “low protein” group lost half of the weight as MUSCLE.
Take it down a bit, champ…
Did that last study indicate that animal proteins were worse? Or do animal proteins contain more BCAAs? Or ARE animal proteins also known as BCAAs?If not, I don't see a link between the last two studies.Also, in the second last study you said it showed we can eat lots of plant protein, but in the last one you said that more than the RDI is bad; but didn't say whether that includes plant protein.Can you please clarify?
Dr. Greger you are a plant-based saint
As a counterpoint, it should be noted that the conclusions here may only apply to prediabetic or metabolically-challenged (not trying to be funny) individuals and NOT athletes. Actually -and unfortunately, since it jumbles and mixes up a lot of messages – the same can be said for a lot of studies : what you can conclude in patients with declared symptoms may not apply to healthy or "active +" individuals. Case in point : the foundational study by Pendergast et al. in 96 clearly shows that while athletes also display higher intramyocellular lipids, these are actually beneficial to their activity. And it's not just because the study is old and flawed. Savage et al. mid 2019 have shown in the J. Lipid Res that the nature (saturated or not) of the lipids accumulated would be the key point, not the presence/quantity. So concluding that BCAAs could have indirect adverse consequences as a whole based on that is tricky, in particular for athletes known to rely on them and who have demonstrably higher needs for them. Like many things in science, that may be turned on its head in the future, but this certainty remains: you always have to be very cautious trying to transpose the conclusions of a study based on patients with declared clinical signs to a healthy population and even more when you deal with individuals who are particularly active and thus have specific adaptations to the imposed demands of what they do…
@Nutritionfacts what about protein for athletes ? I lift and I am still trying to lose weight but I struggle to get to 100 grams of protein ? Would that be a problem in my body recomposition goals ??
Ball of confusion tired of these dorks and their goddamn studies you need protien to build muscle no matter what form be your on genie pig see what works for you
Oh hey look a forest plot! Good thing we all know how to read those👍🏻
Bioavaliability… Talking a lot about getting healthier when you are obese, but what about people who want yo gain mass and muscle?
this study is trash, only 74 participants, not lab controlled, so we have no way of verifying if anyone actually followed the diet. no defintion of a "high protein" diet. no real control group (balanced omnivorous diet) no isolating bcaa's, i don't even like bcaa's as a supplement, but this is just pure cherry picking, typical vegan.
5:35 this is dumb. The group that ate more calories lost more weight only if they burned more calories or if they lost more water weight and the study didn't account for that or if they lost muscle mass and the control group lost fat (because the same amount of calories from protein would weigh more than from fat). So the higher protein diet is actually better for fat loss by preserving/building muscle instead of fat, and that's without mentioning that protein is more satiating so it makes it easier to eat less.
It’ll be great to see a discussion between you and Layne Norton from Biolayne.
BCAA have worked for me ??&#?? Feeling confused i will study this more
I think the protein to energy model proposed by Dr. Ted Niaman seems to make more sense, check him out.
I seriously thought for a second you weren't going to say "put it to the test". I was this close to packing up shop and never watching again….jk
I love the way he says “put it to the test”.
there was a study which I, unfortunately, cannot find now, connecting BCAA consumption with (non-alcoholic) fatty liver disease
So are they healthy or not? Could get that out of this video..
Yes, great improvement in the way the video is made. Seeing Dr Greger talking with excitement throughout whole video. Good job Dr Greger!
This guy is falling apart
I would like to know how the results might differ if the participants in that study were consuming only vegan protein sources. Like, I use a BCAA from an entirely vegan company since I’m very active and could use the extra AA’s. I don’t think this is making me obese though…
Excellent. Thank you!
Yes lets use a study of menopausal women and just fail to mention this and apply this logic to everyone. Nothing said about their diet intake other than the protein part, not even what source they got it from. Looking forwards to Barts rebuttal of this nonsense. Know what improves and puts T2D in remission? Keto and carnivore, that's a fact. Would love to see a plant based diet vs keto/carni in a metabolic ward for say 6 months with T2D patients. My guess is, most if not all in the carni/keto group will have a reduction in medicine or complete remission of T2D.
what about BCAA supplementation during your workout?
Interesting video. But its really missing the influence of strength training on protein needs. The stresses we put on our bodies can, as far as I know, heavily influence our dietary needs.
another vegan crappy diet.
Ammino acids are essential for the structure of your proteins, how stupid. If you didn't know ALL foods contain ammino acids.
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