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Dr. Tim Noakes – Challenging Conventional Dietary Guidelines


– So, I’m going to talk about
my experiences over the last
seven years since I
decided to change my mind
and I just have to correct
one thing about, that Jeff
got wrong in his lecture this morning.
The golden era of ketone
research starts with a paper
by Noakes, Koeslag and Sloan in 1980.
(laughter)
And here it is.
(laughter)
The famous forgotten study
post exercise ketosis,
and this happened at a
time when we were heavily
involved in carbohydrate loading
and, but the way we would
load for marathons is
we would do three days of
carbohydrate depletion where you
wouldn’t need carbohydrates
and you’d run as far as you
could and then for three
days you’d carbohydrate load.
And my friend Johan Koeslag came to me
and he said, “I’m really
interested in ketosis
’cause it’s never been studied.”
So I said, “Well my wife
tells me, I smell terrible
in the carbohydrate depletion
phase of this, maybe there’s
something to do with
carbohydrates and ketones,
and if you stop eating
carbohydrates you get ketotic.”
So we did some experiments
and the (mumbles) can move?
Sorry, am I pointing at that, there we go.
So I’m very proud because
I was one of the subjects
and what we did was, for a day,
sorry, we would carbohydrate
load, or we would do a
low carbohydrate diet.
There’s the low carbohydrate
diet and we would run for two
hours on a treadmill, and then
we got this fabulous ketosis
which we would then reverse if
we ate carbohydrates,
that was the next study.
And when we had no exercise
we didn’t become ketotic
and we ate lots of carbohydrates
and ran we didn’t become
ketotic obviously everyone
knows, but in those days we
didn’t know actually, this was
the first study of ketosis,
post exercise ketosis since the 1930s.
But what was really interesting
was to find out why I
was not going to be so
healthy in due course.
Because, when we looked
at the insulin levels
and glucose levels, and
remember there were two of us,
so it was me and my friend.
What we noticed was that on the, here
free fatty acids you’d expect they go up
when you’re on the low
carbohydrate diet etcetera.
But look at this glucose
response, on the high carbohydrate
diet, we showed an abnormal
response, which I didn’t,
no one noticed that, but
glucose shouldn’t shoot up like
that on a high carbohydrate diet.
On the low carbohydrate diet it was bad
for the first hour but then it improved.
But look at the insulins.
This is on the low carbohydrate,
insulin is reasonably low.
When we didn’t do any
exercise, look at it.
This person is profoundly
insulin resistant,
and we didn’t know what it was.
So I was profoundly insulin
resistant at the age of 28,
despite being lean and running
marathons and running 140
kilometers a week, about
70-80 miles a week.
I was profoundly insulin
resistant, look at this,
after a day of no exercise and no food,
we didn’t eat that day, look at this.
I’m startled by instance
that are way too high.
Today it’s much lower because
I don’t eat carbohydrates.
So I was, I was destined
to develop type 2 diabetes,
but no one knew and no one picked it up.
So I use that as a good example
and one thing, if you want
to do research, you know,
people need to watch the glucose
response to exercise in
people insulin resistant
and I think that’s an
early detector for insulin
resistance, it is you should
monitor always glucose after
the end of a maximum test, exercise test.
It should be normal, if it’s
not, I suspect you’re going to
have some insulin resistance,
just a hypothesis.
So what happened next to
me, next was as I said Tim
Noakes and friend have instant
resistance hypertensive
anemia despite youth
and marathon training.
It improved on the high fat
diet, they must develop Type 2
diabetes with time if they
continue eating a high
carbohydrate diet, so I
continue to eat the high
carbohydrate diet for 33 years.
And the consequence was obvious.
So now we just go a little
bit forward, next year.
This is the picture I
graduated with a doctorate in
medicine and that’s my
mother and my father.
My father’s just been
diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes
and he’s put on a high carbohydrate diet
and ten years later he’s
dead from the disease.
And I watched him die
and there’s nothing worse
than dying from Type 2 diabetes.
He had strokes when he died,
he could not speak to me.
He lost both his legs and this
was a wonderful wonderful man
a very powerful, charismatic
person and absolutely the icon
in my country, and I couldn’t help him.
And so I carry that burden
but I could not help him
and much of what I do is
because I’m inspired by
what he gave to me and the fact that
I couldn’t pay back to him.
So now, it turns out that
I discover I’ve got Type 2
diabetes about seven years
ago and I realized I got 10
years, 10 years or else
I’m gonna be his position
and now seven years down
the line I’m glad to report
that my diabetes is in remission or
in reversal whatever you choose.
And so I’ve been able to do
it, it took me seven years of a
very low carbohydrate diet to do it
but I’m thankful to those
people who put me on the
right path and the people
who put me on the right path
were these guys, Eric Westman,
Steve Finney and Jeff Volek.
And the story is, one
day, the day our scent
of waterlogged to be published
and send it to the editors.
I hadn’t been running much and
my brain told me you must get
up tomorrow morning and you
must run and you must not stop
running for the rest of your life.
So I got up, and I ran
and had a terrible run.
And I got a tiny hill outside
my house and when I reached
the top of the hill which is
tiny I thought I was at top of
the summit of Mount
Everest, I felt so terrible.
So I went back and I opened
my emails and there was an
advert for this book, I mean
how was how probable is that to
happen, I was at the moment
I needed help, the book was
being advertised and I was so
angry, I was so angry when I
read it because I said this
guy Atkins he’s a crook
and a thief, and everything.
And these three people have
sold out to him and they are
good scientists and that’s
a disgrace, I was saying,
I got in the car and drove
to the local bookshop
and I had the last copy of
the book and I picked it up
and in my anger tore it open
and started reading it like
this and after two hours, I
said oh my gosh I got it all
wrong, I said for 33 years
I’ve been completely wrong.
And I said that’s it, no
more carbohydrates ever.
And I had my last low low
carbohydrates that day
and converted to the diet immediately.
And the response from me was
spectacular and as I said it’s
seven years and my
diabetes is in remission.
But this book was and is an
astonishing book, I think that’s
the best diet book I’ve ever
read and he describes instant
resistance in great detail and
all the symptoms you develop
and it’s a book that
really one needs to read.
So when I say they saved
my life they did because 10
years later if I hadn’t read
this book, I would be on
insulin, I’d be weighing 240,
250 kilograms, I wouldn’t be
able to do exercise and
my brain would have gone
and other things would have gone.
So that’s thank you
guys, you’re the start of
whatever else I might have
achieved, I owe it to you.
(applause)
So anyway, so I changed my
diet and I knew there’d be a
backlash and this book is the
second edition of this book
and in the interim, the first
edition didn’t do so well
so they say why don’t you
spice it up a bit so I said.
“Yeah I can write about
the diet, you see.”
So here it has high low
carbohydrate high protein diet will
improve your life, that was
the addition to the book
and immediately it’s, it
opened up a can of worms and
the cardiologist went for me immediately,
because I said you may be
statins on such a good idea,
so they targeted me first.
And then, then I wrote this
article because people were
writing to me and they were
saying, prof, if my diabetes is
in remission or whatever and
I took 127 of the stories
and I analyzed them, and I
said, listen this is just
anecdotes but they’re important,
had four people described
they’d reverse they Type
2 diabetes this is 2013
and I thought my gosh that’s
really important wouldn’t
my profession love it to be
told that you can reverse
Type 2 diabetes, and there
was one person one person lost
260 pounds in seven months.
Just by chance, it’s not,
the first week he lost three
kilogram, one week he lost
12 pounds in one week.
I mean, I don’t know
how it happened, anyway.
And I thought they would love it.
Do you know what, my university
tried to get this paper
retracted because I didn’t
have ethical approval to
write these things about
these people because
I didn’t ask each of them for
ethical permission to, to
include their information.
And I know, I never said it
was hard science, I said a
randomized clinic
controlled clinical trial is
urgently required to disprove
the hypothesis that the
LCH of eating plan can reverse
cases of Type 2 diabetes,
metabolic syndrome, and
hypertension without formal therapy.
And now fortunately we had
the verde health study,
but that’s all I was saying and
they wanted to to stop the article.
The next thing we did was we
wrote this book and this is a
really interesting guide study
because this guy is a long
distance runner, and he and a friend were
running the length of the Wall of China.
And they got into Mongolia
and they ran out of food
and they were really struggling
and they spoke to the
Mongolians and this the
Mongolian said there’s only one
way you’re going to finish
this, you eat pork fat,
that’s all, pork fat from now
till the end and you’ll be
fine, so they ate pork fat
and everything was fantastic.
(laughter)
So they came back and they
said we should write a book to
promote real, the real foods,
a high fat diet for athletes.
And it took us five weeks,
now normally takes me years to
write a book, we write this
book in five weeks and we
published it and it just went
ballistic in South Africa
and it sold many many copies
and completely changed the
nature of the dietary
debate in South Africa.
Now the public were asking, they were all
talking about this low fat
low low carbohydrate diet
and we call it the Banting
Diet in South Africa.
And unfortunately the dietitians
responded in a negative
way, they didn’t say embrace
it, they said no it’s all
wrong, you’re going to
die if you eat the diet.
And the public didn’t believe them
because the public was benefiting so much.
And so we call it the Banting diet.
Sorry, this is all it said,
this is the the genius of this
book is this table the green
foods, these are the green list
of foods and that’s it,
that’s the genius of the book
as long as you eat these
foods you’ll live forever.
So and that’s what we didn’t
promise, but that’s what we
said and that’s so easy if
you’ve got your green list you
can, can do it and then the
book was named after that,
we call the diet the Banting
Diet after Mr. Banting, who
very kindly sent me these
two pictures of himself.
(laughter)
And this is his, before the
diet, and that’s after the diet
and he lost about 40 pounds,
as you can see and then wrote
this book which became very
popular, so it was really
interesting in South Africa,
the night before the book went
to the publishers, one of
the authors, he changed LCHF
and he just put Banting,
and that really gave it legs
because the Banting name
now meant something,
and if you talked in South Africa,
we don’t talk LCHF,
it’s the Banting Guide.
Okay so now what happens,
so what happens is I now go
and speak to parliament and
there’s a picture of me handing
the Real Meal Revolution to
the speaker of parliament.
And my university thinks this
is the worst thing that’s
ever happened to the university
in its history, in its
100 year history to have
Noakes promoting a diet to
the Parliament, and the four
professors decide to write this
letter and they send it to the Cape Times,
so I wake up one morning
warned that this letter
is going to appear in the
Cape Times, which is our
major newspaper in the Cape
Town, on the Monday morning.
And this is what it says.
“This has never happened
before in the history of my
university, it is therefore
a serious concern that
Professor Timothy Noakes,
a colleague respected
for his research in sport
science, is aggressively
promoting the diet as a revolution.”
I’m not promoting the diet.
I wrote a book that South
Africans promoted the book
for me, I did not need to promote it.
“Making outrageous unproven claims
about disease prevention.”
I did not make any claims,
all I said what these people
reported that they had
reversed their Type 2 diabetes
or hypertension on the
diet, I made no claim,
I said what they said.
“Maligning the integrity
and credibility of peers who
criticize his diet for being
evidence deficient and not
conforming to the tenets of
good and responsible science.”
I never said that, they
were talking like that about
me, I never once criticized a
colleague publicly, for that.
And then “this goes against
the University of Cape
Town’s commitment to academic freedom as
a prerequisite to
fostering responsible and
respectful intellectual
debate and free inquiry.”
Now that is George Orwellian speech.
(laughter)
Yeah, I don’t need to explain what I mean.
They were shutting down freedom of speech.
And it got worse.
“The UCD Faculty of Health
Sciences the leading
research institute in
Africa has a reputation for
research excellent to uphold.”
Which I’d contributed to that, by the way.
“Above all our research must
be socially responsible.
We have therefore taken the
unusual step of distancing
ourselves from the
proponents of this diet”.
Now that has never
happened to anyone at that
university in its long history.
So why would they choose me?
Now I didn’t understand at
the time that this is called
mobbing, academic mobbing.
And this article describes
academic mobbing,
which is a horrendous event.
This lady committed
suicide with her husband
when she was mobbed.
She’s from a Canadian university.
She could not take it,
the pressure of mobbing.
I could take it because
I was no longer in the
university, I was retired.
But this is how they described mobbing.
And this is this is what it feels like,
if you’re ever mobbed.
An impassioned collective
campaign by co-workers to exclude,
punish and humiliate a targeted
worker, initiated most often
by a person in position of
power, of influence, it was
started by my Dean of
the Faculty of Medicine.
Mobbing is a desperate urge
to crush and eliminate the
target, the urge traveled through
the workplace like a virus
infecting one person after another.
The target comes to be viewed
as absolutely abhorrent with
no redeeming qualities outside
the circle of acceptance
and respectability,
deserving only of contempt.
As the campaign proceeds
steadily larger range of hostile
ploys and communications comes
to be seen as legitimate.
And that’s what happened to me.
Anything they did after
that was was justified, it
didn’t matter how humiliating
it was whatever they did.
And you know that it’s a
frightening book, when you read it,
article, when you read it,
but to be exposed to this is
terrible and the worst
thing is the people who are
closest to you have to
prove to the mob that
they have distanced
themselves, most from you.
So the people I’ve helped the most
were the ones who were
the most horrid to me.
And just so just think of that.
I survived because of my wife
and what the target of the
mobbing is, is firstly they
isolate you, I was isolated
completely from my university
and my faculty, including the
sports science institute,
which I’d helped build
because they didn’t support me either.
I had one person supporting me
directly and it was my wife.
And the focus is to break you
from your wife because then
you’re finished and if we had
broken I probably would have
committed suicide, but we
were too strong for them.
And she is the reason that
I survived and we fought it,
we decided we’re going to
fight this thing whatever
happens and we’re going to
come out on top in the end.
And fortunately that’s what happened.
So then what happened was, I
get charged for unprofessional
conduct and then in the
middle of my testimony,
this is what the newspaper said.
So I said today has great
value etcetera in science.
So, it all circulates on my
Twitter account and so if you
don’t follow me you might want
to know why do I use Twitter
and why do I think it’s such
an important social media.
And firstly, I use it
for information sharing.
It is the easiest and best
way to share information.
My own personal education I
probably photocopy or print out
three or five new articles
a day, from what I pick up
and I mean it’s just it’s
overwhelming all of the
information and that’s one of
the problem because there’s
so much information on this
diet, coming through, that it’s
difficult to know what you
should be talking about.
And then I also use it, and I’m
for challenging conventional
dietary guidelines, I like to
promote the science supporting
the medical benefits of the
low carbohydrate Banting
lifestyle and to highlight
the failings of the current
pharmacological model of
chronic disease management.
So that’s that’s why I’m on Twitter.
So what happened was
that on February 3, 2014,
Pippa Leenstra tweeted this.
And so she’s a mother, she,
her husband has read The Real
Meal Revolution and is doing
a low carb diet and she asked,
“Is low carb high fat eating
okay for breastfeeding moms
worried about all the dairy
and cauliflower wind for babies”,
Question mark, question mark.
And she writes to two
people, not me and it’s not
Dr. Noakes its professor and
on my Twitter handle it does
not say I’m a medical doctor,
it says I’m a scientist.
And she asked a question
of two of, it’s this plural
that critically important mums and babies,
that’s critical to the whole defense.
And so here’s my answer.
Baby doesn’t eat the
dairy and cauliflower.
That’s a statement of fact
just very healthy high fat
breast milk so I’m promoting
breastfeeding and then I make
the error and these seven
words are the problem.
Key is to ween, I could even,
know how to spell weening, baby onto LCHF.
And that was a seven word
tweet that became the most
expensive tweet in the
history of tweet-dom.
(laughter)
So said, within nine hours,
this lady, who happens to be
the head of the Association
For Dietitians in South
Africa, complains to the
health professional Councils,
I’m registered with the
health professional council
because I’m a doctor.
And so she writes to them
and she says, “To whom it may
concern I would like to file
a complaint against Noakes.
He is giving incorrect
medical blah blah on Twitter,
that is not evidence based.
I have atest the tweet where
Professor Noakes advise
breastfeeding mother to wean
her baby onto low carbohydrate
high fat diet, I urge the
HPCSA to please take urgent
actions against this type of
misconduct as Professor Noakes
is a celebrity and they don’t,
the public doesn’t have the
knowledge to understand
that the information he is
advocating is not evidence based.
It’s dangerous to give this
advice, for instance, for
infant and could potentially
be life threatening.
I await your response.”
So a few days later I receive
a letter from the health
professional council saying
this is the complaint and you
have to defend it, so I laugh
because she didn’t give any
evidence, there’s no evidence
here about what I said was
dangerous, where’s the evidence?
You can’t make a charge
without providing evidence and
I wrote a long letter and I
thought it would be the end of
it, but then I began
to realize things were
taking off behind the scenes.
So eventually, I get charged
and this is the charge the
biomedical ethical issue, I
acted disgracefully because I
abused the doctor patient
relationship by offering medical
advice on social media to a
patient and her infant without
first examining the healthy infant.
So that’s the charge.
And also that the medical
advice I preferred was not
only wrong, it was unconventional
not evidence based,
but it is also dangerous, even
there were there was never
any evidence or claim of harm.
So the problem that they faced
was that, this is the way
they used a circular
argument providing medical
information on Twitter
represents disgraceful conduct
because it’s not possible
to examine the patient on
Twitter, but if it’s not possible to
examine the patient on Twitter
then it’s not possible to
have a doctor patient
relationship on Twitter.
(laughter)
And the argument went round
and round and round as I’ll show.
So four years later, during
the appeal which we had
earlier this year, the
HBCSA finally dropped any
pretense that a doctor
patient relationship existed.
They realized they’d lost that
case, so what did they say,
they now argue that the
weaning advice was dangerous to
millions and billions
of Twitter followers.
And so now he’s been charged
with killing millions of
people and giving them the
wrong advice on Twitter.
(laughter)
So what next happens is
it so when you charged,
it goes to a preliminary committee and
these geniuses were the
guys who are going to decide
whether they should charge me or not.
Now, what they’re meant to
do, is that they collect the
information and then they
send, they’ve got all this
information they send it to
me, I respond, and then they
call me and I’m must present to them.
I was never given that, and
that is the South African
Constitution says that has to happen.
This lady is the Head
of Ethics at one of the
major South African universities.
She broke all ethical rules
for a number of things that
she did, but she did not give me the
right to hear the charge
they made against me
which is against the
Constitution of South Africa.
Then they started, this guy,
who I’ve known since I was this
high, he decides he is going
to make sure I get charged
and he’s gonna sort out all the
expert witnesses, now that’s
not his job, he must just
decide whether to charge me
or not, so anyway the question
was what did they know about
Twitter, and the answer was nothing.
None of them had ever had
any interest in Twitter.
And so that was.
So anyway, they then decided
on the basis of me not
being allowed to defend
myself that they were going to
charge me and the charge went forward.
So here are the problems that they faced.
The first one is I
answered a wee question.
And the thing about a wee
question is, which means I was
providing general medical
information, not medical
advice, I’m just giving
medical information.
For example, medical
information, if you got up
and asked me doc, Professor
Noakes, is it right for runners
to stretch before they go
training in the mornings.
That’s medical information,
it’s not medical advice.
If I lost the case, none of
you would ever be able to
answer that question in public again.
Because you would be giving
so-called medical advice
not medical information and
you’d have to examine every
patient before you gave that advice.
Yeah yeah.
And hence that could not be a
doctor patient relationship.
There was no doctor patient relationship,
we proved that in many ways.
So here was the opinion of
a South African, who was
President of the South
African Medical Association,
he made a very very obvious point.
Today, all medical advice
artists are ubiquitous all across
the globe by both print
and electronic media.
But it’s never been suggested that Dr. Oz
has a doctor patient
relationship with his hearers
(applause)
Et cetera, now see if I’d
lost the case, poor old
Dr. Oz could not appear anymore,
technically, at least in South Africa.
And you would not be able
to give a public lecture
and you wouldn’t be able to
write a book because that
would be giving medical
advice and the only way you
could do it, you’d have to
examine everyone who reads your
book and then you can
give them the advice.
(laughter)
So why was I treated differently?
And is it to set an historical
precedent and I don’t know.
All I can tell you is
that industry was strongly
involved in the case against me.
And you can probably guess
which industries they were.
So there was no Dr Price,
the information I provided is
entirely compatible with the
South African and international
guidelines for complementary
feeding, weaning of children.
This is astonishing, what I said was
absolutely gold standard, right advice.
So let’s look at that.
Here’s complementary feeding,
a critical window, this is in
the South African Medical
Journal written by all the top
experts in South Africa
and what do they say.
Provide a variety of foods,
meat, poultry, fish and eggs
should be eaten daily
or as often as possible.
That’s that’s what I said.
So then we go on the Association
For Dietitians of South
Africa, which was also part
of the charge against me,
what are their guidelines?
Foods from animals should be
eaten daily or as often as
possible to meet protein and iron needs.
Okay so, and then the best was this lady,
because she was the expert
witness for the prosecution.
They used all her evidence
to charge me and the best
moments, I may introduce Rocky
Ramdass to you in a second
or two, and say when she came
to give the expert witness,
by the way, Rocky, well I’ll show you now.
But we just had such a
fabulous relationship.
He once cross-examined me
and I was in five minutes I
couldn’t speak anymore, but
she came up and so he asked
her, so Professor Foster
what’s your training.
Now I have a BSE in home economics
and an PhD in physiology.
So why does that qualify
you as a dietitian.
Have you ever treated anyone
with diet for dieting?
No no no, etcetera.
Got worse than that because
you also gave evidence on
ethics is that what training
you have ethics, nothing.
Have you ever research a
low carbohydrate diet, no.
Have you ever prescribed
the diet for anyone, no.
So he said well what are
you doing here, then.
(laughter)
There was the first five
minutes and she’d never been
cross-examined in her life
by any student or anyone.
And it was, she said things to me
afterwards which I can’t even repeat.
(laughter)
So what did she say, from six
months of age give your child
meat chicken fish or eggs
everyday or as often as possible.
So she didn’t know what her
guidelines were, either.
Okay, so there we go,
there’s Professor Foster.
And this is this is our
guidelines, meat, poultry, game
all eggs and offer all
seafood and they’re all the
vegetables, that’s it, that’s
the Real Me Revolution diet
for weaning of children.
So the third one was, no
one suffered any harm,
Mrs. Leenstra did not follow
the advice nor did she lay the
complaint, which is
astonishing, the first time
someone is charged and the person
who lays the complaint doesn’t
suffer harm and isn’t present
And so she very kindly
wrote to the newspapers.
She’d never and I’ve apologized
in Afrikaans, but this means
she didn’t give a damn,
if you might excuse me
(laughter)
She says the Noakes case,
I don’t give a damn.
That was her and her son who
was not put on the Banting
diet and he looks okay but probably
would look a bit better
if he’d been weaned on.
(laughter).
And in the end, we proved
that the complaint was laid as
part of a collusion between
ADSA and the health professional
council with a purpose to
silence me, that is denying me my
constitutional right of
freedom of speech because
before I’d even sent the
tweet, the head of ADSA was
talking to the health professional council
to try to shut me up,
so we discovered these,
this was an incriminating email.
This was the lady who led the
charge, she’s President of
the Association for
Dietetics in South Africa
and she writes to this lady
who serves on the health
professional council as a
representative for nutrition
and dietetics in South Africa.
This is before I’ve tweeted
and she says, “Tim Noakes
impact on the dietetics
profession, here are other
examples of what other people are
writing about dieticians
to the negative attention
we’re getting from Tim
Noakes”, there was no negative
attention, I was just,
wrote a book that’s all.
The article below tax dietician
but it’s written by someone
else and it was a very stinging
article which had made her
very unhappy and etcetera etcetera.
And it goes on before
the trial even happens.
So the trial begins, sorry, I
think the battery is running
out here, I think the battery’s died.
There we go, okay.
So this is now a year
before the trial starts,
a year before the trial
starts, she writes,
“We’ve had a meeting with the
senior legal person at the
HPCSA and he says we’ve
got a plan for Dr Noakes.”
This is a year before the trial begins,
so that was the collusion and then,
so then she writes back a
few days later, oh sorry,
a few hours later.
I think the battery is really
struggling, there we go.
“And thank you for your email,
this is now the fourth before
the trial begins, a year
before the trial begins,
I just feel that the process
takes very long and the damage
gets worse and worse, dieticians
contact me daily, I feel
that I don’t have support from
the HBCSA, I’m glad it’s been
discussed, can you possibly
give me an indication of what
the timelines are when we
can expect action taken.”
Thanks so much.
So that was it, so it was a it
was a setup which had nothing
to do with the tweet, it had,
the fact that the dietetics,
the dietitians were unhappy
with what was happening.
So in the end the trial
lasted more than four years
and cost an estimated one million dollars
for all parties, perhaps its great legacy
will have to have brought the LCHF diet
to an even larger global audience.
So I must finalize by thanking
a couple of people this
is my team at three guys
here just absolutely.
Mike van der Nest and Rocky Ramdass,
who gave their time me for
free, they gave me probably
at least a million dollars free cover.
(applause)
And they’re two of the most eloquent,
the best lawyers in South Africa.
And Mike phoned me and he
said “Tim, it’s a witch hunt,
I’m gonna defend you.”
And Rocky, I’ll show you in
a second, so here’s Rocky
and myself, and we had
four great years together
and we now brothers and here
we are sitting at the trial
and we were, we would present
the evidence and we’d been
through it and, you know, he
literally read the transcripts
I think five times he was just
a meticulous man and just I
can’t thank you enough and he’s a Hindu.
And this is a verdict definition
of a man of God, softer
than the flower where kindness
is concerned and you could
see the kindness in his face,
stronger than the thunder
where principles are at
stake and that was that,
he nailed those, the poor old
prosecution witnesses got nailed.
Now why is he called Rocky?
Well there’s a guy called
Rocky Balboa, you may remember.
And Rocky was one of the
anti-apartheid activists in
South Africa and in the
1980s. he led a lot of the
anti-apartheid activism at his university.
And so we always had this
little card just to remind us,
from Rocky, let me tell you
something you already know,
the world ain’t all sunshine and rainbows.
It’s all very, it’s a
very mean and nasty place
and I don’t care how tough
you are it will beat you to
your knees and keep you there
permanently if you let it
you me or nobody is going
to hit as hard as life
but it ain’t about how hard you
hit, it’s about how hard you
can get hit and keep moving
forward, how much you can take
and keep moving forward,
that’s how winning is done.
And that was our relationship
and he also taught me the
Hindu, much about the Hindu religion.
And if I’m born again I
want to be born a Hindu.
(laughter)
And he told me about Ganesh
and Ganesh is the God of
removing obstructions and we would pray to
Ganesh everyday at the start of the trial.
(laughter)
To remove the obstructions for that day.
And then, the famous group
came Nina Teicholz, whom you’ll
know, who is right here in the front.
These are my three expert
witnesses, so can we get back.
Sorry something’s effing now.
I’ve obviously pressed, there we go.
So I had three expert witnesses
I gave nine days test.

Randall Smitham

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32 COMMENTS

  1. GlaucusBlue Posted on February 25, 2019 at 6:23 pm

    amazing stories, please release an audible version of the book, it's always great to have multiple levels of information, in great detail is perfect for those of us interested in the subject. .

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  2. InconnuGlitterBoy Posted on February 25, 2019 at 6:44 pm

    Thank you!

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  3. Matthew Alloy Posted on February 25, 2019 at 8:19 pm

    Excellent podcast 🙂👍.

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  4. Lina Adams Posted on February 25, 2019 at 9:02 pm

    This is why I encourage people to avoid universities at all costs. Because they are full of stupid people who have no common sense and you pay thousands of dollars for their stupidity. Dr. Noakes excluded.

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  5. David Vicknair Posted on February 25, 2019 at 10:54 pm

    I just love Noakes’ honesty, humor, humility, positive attitude and strength of character. His dad would be very proud.

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  6. Darla Fitzpatrick Posted on February 26, 2019 at 12:37 am

    If any viewers have the time to watch the video archives from Dr. Noakes' trial, I highly recommend doing so. If memory serves, there are 80+ segments on the Noakes Foundation channel and they are a veritable master class in human metabolism. What a gift he has given the world!

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  7. Merryl Bustin Posted on February 26, 2019 at 3:31 am

    Brilliant! An amazing story.

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  8. MrsTabby1963 Posted on February 26, 2019 at 4:45 pm

    4:17 a poignant photo indeed. Tim's devastation at his dad's awful death by T2D complications and this is compounded by his later knowledge that it Never.Needed.To.Happen! T2D is reversible and easily manageable without recourse to drugs and at last the message seems to be seeping out. Dr David Unwin is one of the courageous pioneers in the UK using low carb with his patients and has carefully recorded their test results over six years so far.

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  9. Mick Jos Posted on February 27, 2019 at 3:33 am

    This is what hero looks like

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  10. Loretta Dillon-Ham Posted on February 28, 2019 at 10:25 pm

    Prof Noakes "You are an INTERNATIONAL a Global TREASURE" …. you are priceless beyond measure, thank you xxx

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  11. Barbara Lee Posted on March 4, 2019 at 8:45 am

    Thank you Professor Noakes and all those who have stood in the storm for the sake of speaking truth to power! I stumbled onto LCHF by total chance watching the cauliflower pizza crust segment on SuzelleDIY. This hilarious 2 minute clip led me to all the people and data about the medical and diet lies I’ve been told growing up and then post cardiac bypass surgery. I’m so grateful because I’ve defied my doctors, quit taking their statins and aspirin, eating high fat low carb, dropped 35 lbs, normalized my blood pressure, quit 2 of 3 Bp meds, look great, feel great and I’m almost 71 and thought I’d be dead in 5 years. I LOVE you. And Nina, and Zoe, and Jason and Steve and Ivor and Westman and Lustig and and …. now I am campaigning all my beloved neighbors to please please eat LCHF. Even my cats get REAL food appropriate for them (ie raw meat). And even the cats don’t want to. Carbs are so addictive that everyone I talk to starts with utter denial. But then the diabetics, who have nothing more to lose try it and lose weight and get better. Next the obese start saying they want to try it to lose their weight and then they can go back to “normal “ eating. But they won’t go back. Because once you feel young again and healthy you realize that you are on the right track finally for life. Thank you Tim. I quote you daily. I say, Sweeties and chocolates are the devil. Everyone laughs but then they put down the candy and take it away from the kids. Medicine has finally been put into the hands of those that can change the world – the common citizen via social media. Who would have thought?!!

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  12. EXAMPLE VISUAL COMMUNICATIONS Posted on March 13, 2019 at 12:06 pm

    Mr Noakes you will live long to proove those idiots that they were wrong

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  13. Antoinette Parry Posted on April 3, 2019 at 3:53 pm

    Only sorry you couldn't help your father Dr. Noakes. Also very glad you are so very strong mentally. You really needed to be.

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  14. Rebecca L Posted on April 10, 2019 at 8:19 am

    Vindication is so sweet!

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  15. jtremblay100 Posted on April 17, 2019 at 3:48 am

    Interesting video, I like how he takes complex things and explains them so a simple person like me feels smart and that i understand. The story about 10 minutes where running through the desert they ate pork fat to keep going. In the Hudson Bay company (hbc) records in Canada early French traders were called pork eaters from the amount of pork fat added to their diet. Also bison made into pemmican was a huge part. I would hypothesis they were Ketogenic? http://www.hbcheritage.ca/classroom/virtual-museum/fur-trade-nation/life-of-a-voyageur

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  16. Elizabeth Blane Posted on April 22, 2019 at 5:24 pm

    Dr. Noakes is "paying back" his father by paying it forward to future generations.

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  17. Azmi Safri Posted on April 26, 2019 at 7:21 am

    So convoluted!

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  18. Rita May Posted on April 30, 2019 at 9:16 am

    Academic Mobbing WOW! I've seen this in the workplace and it destroys careers. Kudos to Dr. Noakes for persisting in defending his stance which also has helped more people than we will ever know.

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  19. Catherine Lindsay Posted on May 22, 2019 at 9:25 am

    Totally inspirational. Thank you Tim Noakes and Virta Health. Wow.

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  20. ido shapira Posted on May 28, 2019 at 3:57 pm

    You must feel betrayed by some of your closest so called friends. You’re truly a hero. You don’t sound spiteful at all

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  21. ido shapira Posted on May 28, 2019 at 3:57 pm

    The good thing is that now your message is even more powerful and strong

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  22. Mark Angus Posted on May 30, 2019 at 3:07 pm

    Thank you Tim Noakes

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  23. Naseemah Allyson Posted on May 31, 2019 at 8:50 am

    Hi Proffessor Tim Noakes.. you are our Hero for all times .. we love you .. we appreciate you .. long my you live .. many may you help .. cos you have the might of the universe behind you to correct and balance this world .. true respect for a very humble and excellent human being .. lotsa love and prayers from Johannesburg South Africa xxx

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  24. bisiilki Posted on June 1, 2019 at 1:07 am

    Honestly I don't know how he lasted as long as he did. It takes an enormous toll on you physically, mentally and emotionally to fight against a coordinated effort to discredit and academically exile someone. I was so pleased when you he triumphed against the stupid nutritionist-conspirators.

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  25. Nikita Onassis Posted on June 9, 2019 at 2:20 am

    Bring big pharma, Agri and those complicit to trial for metabolic syndrome..Maybe not this century but it would turn the heads on faith based science and money..time to put on trial those who would throw stones first..

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  26. James Lovering Posted on June 11, 2019 at 10:55 am

    Keep up the good fight !

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  27. MrJoeyBoombotz Posted on June 25, 2019 at 12:37 am

    Only authentic scientists are happy when they see they are or have been wrong about their beliefs or postulates. Seeing their error frees them to pursue other avenues. What a joy to hear him speak.

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  28. Real World Posted on July 5, 2019 at 6:32 pm

    God bless Tim Noaks.

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  29. heiner lauter Posted on July 12, 2019 at 6:28 pm

    noise of cutlery even at a presentation about diet, ketosis, insulin resistance.
    Most americans really always eat!

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  30. KETASIAN Posted on July 17, 2019 at 2:15 pm

    Priceless information

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