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FriYAY!! Crazy Keto claims Debunked! Ask Dr Heather Part 1


Hello hello hello it’s FriYaY.
I didn’t spell it wrong that’s how they do it on Instagram.
FriYaY it’s FriYaY y’all Abigail Kluttz here, from Olathe Kansas 4 o’clock frat
day oh we’re gonna start doing this, we’re
gonna start doing this okay. I’ve been reading, just reading this week
it’s keto’s hot keto’s a buzz word keto’s what we’ve been talking about
teaching about for two years. It’s exciting, it ain’t nothing new
we’re just penetrating the marketplace with it. And I have read some
unbelievable statements this week on keto I have seen some podcasts by people
talking about their journey with keto and um exogenous ketones you’ve really
researched it if you’re calling it exogenous let me tell you about that. So
the rest of the podcast is over once you call it exogenous. Um so right now on
FriYaY we’re gonna do a little bit of Keto debunking. Before we do this I will
say I am an independent Pruver I am an independent promoter with Pruvit. I am
that. And so is Dr. Heather Cardin who’s gonna come on and share with us
enlighten us with the science okay there you are Heather invite, invite okay.
Yeah I missed you today we made Keto donuts in our house. We had amazing lunch that you
totally missed out on brand-new fat bombs. I’m sorry. I know, I know, I ya I should have been,
but don’t come that stuff is not good for you. Do you still have it at your
house? Uh if I could point over there I have a few lemon donuts left and a one and a
half fat bombs, that someone else made a a new recipe was fantabulous. Trina
brought those today. Charlotte had no school and she begged for a pajama day and I’m okay with that. So and
we started Keto and by two o’clock you know me. You’re on the trampoline. Yeah
yeah so Dr. Heather thank you for joining me today, uh it’s getting out of control on
social media with a lot of um experts coming out and making all these Keto
claims I thought you know every Friday we could do a crazy
Keto claim list debunked and so I think it’s gonna be fun I’m glad to have you
on here today. I’ve got some good point for you okay.
Oh thank you for inviting me I’m not for sure what I said yes to but this is
the herb yes so I hopefully, hopefully I can help you out here. No I love it I
love it I’ve written down some of my favorites so just scrolling trolling
through okay and I’m just gonna read them to you, okay, first thing that comes
to your mind that’s appropriate and, so we’re not talking about libido and
ketones and all that stuff today. I get that question a lot. I know it’s Friday
maybe we can wrap it up with some libido and no okay because even guys even farm
wines could kick you out of ketosis on Friday just saying after four hours but
we won’t even go into that Dr. Nally taught me about that okay.
Dr. Heather are you ready for number one? I hope so. Okay. Keto isn’t designed to be
year round our bodies aren’t designed to have the same diet year round. Who are
they speaking about what people? Like that’s to me again I am not a Keto
expert I have not done third-party research but I do know a basic human
biology that babies are in ketosis about 20 weeks we
know that the best thing we can do for our babies actually breastfeed the first
year as long as they’re breastfed they’re in ketosis so that would mean
that everything that our breastfeeding moms are doing is not healthy for them.
That would mean leading researchers like Peter Duff I shouldn’t mention people
there’s leading researchers out there doing a lot of biohacking with elite
athletes, endurance athletes keeping it in that state of ketosis for optimal
performance that means that we shouldn’t suggest it for people who maybe are
gonna go up in airplanes or rockets I’m keeping it very simple Sally so I’m not
for sure where that data comes from or who’s even saying it and then what
people are they speaking about because we definitely know what this sugar
burning society we’re in is not working like one out of two people are gonna get
cancer, the sugar burning thing is not working for sure that I don’t know. Awesome
I’m going to go ahead and preface insane most of these comments are coming from
self-made nutrition experts online okay. Okay. You know, alright. So I did it it turned me
into a monster. I’m going back to my diet which consists
of fruits starchy carbs pasta and veggies. Why was she turning into a
monster? Well I don’t know how long maybe she only tried to be on a ketogenic diet
for two or three days. It wasn’t just taking exogenous ketones coz you can
still have all your fruits and pasta with exogenous ketones but you know
there’s a period of time two three four six weeks when you’re transitioning over
from a high carbo sugar dieting and we know sugar’s addicted. We know actually sugars more addictive
than heroin so people are gonna come up with excuses to eat the way they want.
You’ve, you’ve coach people, I’ve coached people, if you can find time to
validate what you want to do. Maybe it’s not the best for your body but you can
find validation from anything. So that does make me laugh I’ve heard that stuff
before but it probably isn’t working. Heck no! No fruit not sustainable. Not a
lifestyle change this is basically the 2017 version of Atkins. So absolutely not
true. Atkins is high protein, low carb, low fat
a ketogenic diet which we’ve studied for since 1920 almost a hundred years this
is not new science. We know that it’s actually high fat moderate protein low
carb, so it’s not the Atkins diet the only thing it has in common is they’re
both low carb. Atkins and again great great great doctor set us off on the
right foot what didn’t go right is that we didn’t up our fats because we know
that protein still break down into a form of glucose still sugar so you’re
still kind of sugar burning even if you’re on a high-protein diet so when
you’re on a high-fat diet you’re burning ketones for fuel and
again we’re almost at a hundred year studying this so there’s so many studies
out there that I think people do need to know it’s not paleo, it’s not low-carb,
it’s not Atkins it’s ketogenic just ketogenic that’s it that’s simple.
Address the fact of, do we need fruits to eat? Oh yeah yeah yeah give me the talk rock.
So there are no essential like we’ve if you’ve been to even just basic biology
at a college level, there’s essential amino acids, there’s
essential fatty acids are neurotransmitters help our body run from
day to day. There’s no essential fruit so we do not
need a banana a day, we do not need an apple a day to keep the doctor away. The
fruits that we can have are tomatoes, olives, avocados, lemons like yeah we can have
some fruits but it’s not going to be the melons and the bananas and papayas that
we think so just define that fruit but we don’t need fruits to get through our
day-to-day basis but again olives are healthy and we can certainly have a few
tomatoes but we don’t need citrus fruit, we don’t need melons, we don’t need
apples and things like that to to actually function optimally. You don’t
need to drink ketones do ketogenic diet. True you can
be on a true ketogenic diet people have been doing it for a hundred years and
your body can make its own ketones. However,
um practicing the last 20 years knowing that our soil is depleted we’re not
getting the macro nutrients that we need, our guts are a mess that’s why the
number one pill sold is a purple pill. Um I had a group of women 15 women over here
talking today and I said because like why would you use an exogenous ketones
I’ve got enough ketones around my behind to make my own ketones. But what happens
is we have so many players hormones can throw you out of ketosis getting mad at
your dog your husband your cat your plant that died will throw you out of
ketosis eating a little too much of this a little lot none of this over sleeping
under sleeping over working out under hydration. So many things can throw us
out so I had made a comment to someone I’m like you know if the smoker want to
quit smoking would you let them wear the patch will like for sure well then if
someone’s trying to quit sugar which we know is more addictive than heroin that
research out there please Google that out there it’s something I’m read and
just repeating I didn’t do the study myself but we know that exogenously
tones take away cravings they give more energy at the cellular level,
they help bounce out neurotransmitters, they down regulate our excitatory
addictive hormones that seems pretty simple to me if you’re having trouble
staying on a low sugar no sugar diet that it makes sense and it’s an amazing
tool to use to help your body out again if you ask people how many people are
tired how many people’s guts are a mess you know we’re making all sorts of new
GI diagnosis every single day we can keep it the icd-9 codes but though
everyone’s having their irritable bowel and leaky gut and all that kind of stuff
we’re just not eating proper foods. Awesome! Here’s a good on, now I’m on a roll.
let’s go. There’s your weight I want to get this word for word it’s really simple
actually. Your brain needs carbs. Our brain needs fuel, so our brain needs fuel.
It can burn ketones, it can burn glucose, we can break down proteins through
gluconeogenesis and get extra glucose. Our brain just needs fuel so whether
we’re sugar burning which we know now is leading to type 3 diabetes, dementia,
inflammation of the brain, a lot of a lot of mental health disorders from anxiety
to depression to insomnia that when we’re sugar burning our brain
is not always functioning optimally there are a lot of leading current
credible researchers out there doing this exact research on what does our
brain exactly prefer. Number one our brain wants fuel the second question is
what does it perform best on? And so with the current credible data is showing us
that our brain actually can run optimally on ketones because we don’t
need any insulin to cross the blood-brain barrier with carbohydrates
we have to go through all that need insulin we know that if you’re on a
ketogenic diet you reduce your chance of having Alzheimer’s and dementia ketones
down regulate our excitatory neurons which cause insomnia and ADHD and
anxiety so it makes sense get fueled the brain but give it the best one which
again a lot of the researchers as we talk right now are in the lab trying to
really get that information out there. Fats are hard on your liver. I’m sorry
I’m laughing. I don’t even I know I know non-alcoholic fatty liver
disease so it’s actually not from fact it’s actually called non yeah non out
yeah non-alcoholic fatty liver disease so alcohols just fermented grains
fermented fruits right a high bigbang of sugar.What happens is is that
non-alcoholic fatty liver disease which is out numbering hepatitis in this
country is actually what’s causing so high carbohydrate diet high glucose
we’re over making our liver work work work work work work high protein diet
gluconeogenesis happens in the liver, were out running our liver and it’s
overworking so it’s getting fatty and it’s getting big. Fats don’t make your
liver fat, sugar makes your liver fat. Sugar makes your buttons fats, sugar
makes your tummy fat.Fat doesn’t make your tummy fat or your liver fat so
non-alcoholic fatty liver disease because alcohol again is straight sugar
if we were you’re not an alcoholic and you’re getting fatty liver disease again
ton a ton of current credible information out there by leading
researchers not nutritious not dietitians not chiropractors but people
who are in the lab setting that but it’s a high sugar diet causing naff lack. Okay.
These are some of my favorites. I know I’m keeping I’m coming. Um this year I had blood work done
I’m hoping you’ll do the same with such an intense lifestyle. I had high
cholesterol and hypothyroidism too much stress on my system with keto and lack
of ARBs. It was a disaster brewing. So she’s saying that diet actually causes,
high cholesterol people think that keto, okay, so I’m gonna just so we talked about
cholesterol last night actually at the privilege of speaking another doctors
Wellness Center last night and we went through some of the the history that it
used to be okay to have your cholesterol 300 then we lowered it to 250 then we
lowered to 224 now we lowered to 190 what’s happened is it actually 180
percent of us are gonna die due to cardiovascular disease. So we’ve lowered
the cholesterol numbers but we’ve upped heart disease so that doesn’t make sense
to me. We know that our thyroid is actually the
well and I’ll say one more thing about cholesterol. Cholesterol breaks down into
all of our hormones from DHEA which is our anti-aging hormone, cholesterol,
testosterone, estrogen, estradiol so if we don’t have enough cholesterol we can’t
break down into all of our other essential hormones. We know a lot of
people out there who have andropause, menopause, PMS. Maybe it’s because I don’t
have enough cholesterol to manufacture hormones properly. Secondly the thyroid
is the ignition for our body, so if we give our body a superior fuel source
that does not need insulin, like carbohydrates need insulin, proteins need
insulin, bananas need insulin, oatmeal needs insulin, that if we can give our
body healthy fats bacon and eggs we don’t need much insulin, then our body
can actually perform much better. So I agree with her, please get your lab work
done every six months if you changing your diet please check with a health
care provider and interview them get with someone who is on your same
wellness journey and is current and credible with today’s data. That’s
really my advice I mean you wouldn’t just go to any hairdresser so make a
doctor or meet with someone who’s who’s doing what you want to do. That’s right. I
tried it, it wreaked havoc on my kidneys and other areas of my health. She tried
the ketogenic diet or exogenous ketones? Uh ketogenic diet
and and I’ve seen more things about the equation and kidneys, they’re talking kidneys. Yeah so on a keto a true
ketogenic diet the body has to do a lot of work again our guts are kind of a
mess. So people actually could have some negative backlash with it you’re trying
to go too fast if your macros aren’t right if you’re overworking out if
you’re not doing enough fat so I find a lot of times people go on a ketogenic
diet. All I do is just cut out carbs and fats and just do a lot of high protein
which can lead to a lot of kidney issues or if people have hidden food allergies
maybe you’re doing a ton of dairy and nuts and maybe you have a nut and dairy
allergy that could definitely cause some kidney issues, liver issues, rashes things
like that. So you know you have to put all those factors into into place and go
back to the basics. The basic ketogenic diet which was doing raw dairy not
processing the blue and red wrapper and melted on everything and the stuff in a
box that runs all over beautiful broccoli and not doing all those nuts
covered and you know you need to buy stuff organic and clean so yes there is
some evidence that the ketogenic diet can be potentially hard on someone’s
kidneys but that’s actually due to a digestive issue that your gut can’t
break it down, your kidney can’t filter it out again we’re at the doctor and
make sure you don’t have an allergy out there or you’re not over feeding on
something else. Everything can be done incorrectly, everything can be done
incorrectly right you can work out with an injured. I do a lot of things
incorrectly every day you know one of the things that I noticed being in the
space for two years, is people equate the Atkins diet which was very high protein
if people were having acid dumps and some were forming kidney stones too
– now ketogenic diet I think it’s because they used to just measure their
ketones on the Atkins, which they were producing a lot of glucose through high
protein. Have you met with that word association a lot you know more recently?
Everyday so people say so the ketogenic diet so did a presentation last night
we had a nice little mixer in our house today and, and in people again who were
racing the 80s Atkins is a very great word he did bring a lot of new
information to the nutrition space when he brought that there. And
Jackie is an amazing nutritionist with a great book at there.
However, we have to go back to the basis of human biology. Our brains are 60% fat
we need fat but the Atkins word has been around for a few decades.
We know that keto is one of the most popular googled words today like you’ve
been in here for 24 months. There’s people like Dr. Dom who’s been here for
15, 16, 17 years right so you have to go back and say well that wasn’t really big
two decades ago where Atkins you know was maybe a whisper word in the 70s 80s
a bigger word 90s a bigger word people still reflect back on that. So there is a
lot of information out there about a high-protein diet being hard on your
kidneys you can still gain weight you can get in ketosis, but you can still you
know end up gaining weight and getting a lot of inflammation from too many meats.
Too much protein leads to a lot of dehydration that’s why we see
bodybuilders using high protein to cut weight and get shredded or dehydrated at
a cellular level because we’re doing high amounts of protein so I just I
don’t want to offend anybody out there who’s lifting but you know before a show
they’ve got to get shredded and dehydrated and that’s what they do, tons
of tons of protein just to strip their body of water. Awesome. I did exogenous
ketones for five days and felt nothing. And so I took vitamin D for two
weeks and didn’t feel anything, and I asked people like if you took your
cholesterol drug or your cholesterol is like low or high did you feel anything,
did you start birth control for two days you might feel something with that cuz
it’s hormone related, but I generally tell people you don’t feel low calcium
you don’t feel high cholesterol until your doctor tells you. I like to compare
it to a barren desert I’m a farmers girl from Kansas Miami County to be exact. So
I watched my dad plant the seeds and we water, we water, we water, water
nothing after two weeks nothing after three weeks my dad’s still walking
checking the soil looking for worms and all of a sudden six eight weeks
everything sprouts up. The same things true with us at the cellular level
you’ve got to feed your body again if it was an iron supplement you wouldn’t feel
anything the first four or five days either but we’re it’s not caffeine it’s
not like a a ginger or something else that really just sparks our energy or ups
our cortisol is putting oxygen at that cycle
level, so sometimes things happen so slowly that you don’t realize it until
it’s taken away. Every doctor will say this I’ll open up and do a review of the
patient. Um how are you feeling? I don’t feel any different.
Well, how are the headaches? Well, they’re gone. How’s your gut? Well, that’s better. Um
you know coz when things get better people forget what they used to have
right, when you had back pain two years ago you forgot about it today it’s not
there with you all the time because it’s not what’s currently on your mind. So you
have to give your body time when you’re making changes even a train will tell
you six weeks in the gym before you see anything, the same things true cellularly
six weeks before we start seeing some changes whether it’s a blood pressure
medication or whether it’s an iron supplement or a vitamin D, you got to
give your body time. And then the other one is you have these people saying, I’m
doing the ketogenic diet I don’t need exogenous ketones, you’re a
ketogenic purist and I know that your health conditions depend on you stayin’
in ketosis and you still take them and recommend them so why? Well, I guess my
personal story. I went on a ketogenic diet after an accident. I already been
low carb gluten-free for a long time. But I knew I had to save my lean muscle mass
after I fell and broke my leg. And so I didn’t have exogenous ketones that
whole first year after my accident in 2014. The ketones are like getting a
little bit extra water get a little more ketones, so what it does for me is give
me a better flexible metabolic state so if I get mad at my kids or break a dish
and get mad, that hormone doesn’t take me out of ketosis. Before I have my normal
female cycle and that would take me out of ketosis would take me days to get
back in the same thing what’s happening when I was on a ketogenic diet back in
the 90s training for a triathlon. If I over trained I’m out of ketosis I
started tapping into my lean muscle mass so now I have more flexibility in
supplementing my body with additional ketones because our air is polluted, our
water’s polluted, we’re over stress, we’re on the phone, we’re on the computer, our
kids are running crazy. So for me I need that additional bhp in my body, so I feel
better at that cellular level. So it’s a supplement.
Supplement to the diet but if you don’t want to do the
diet and just live a healthy, you know clean diet you can still get the amazing
benefits. We heard stories of someone giving him to a child with autism. He is
not gonna get on my fitness pal track micro macros you know not gonna
prepare meals measure everything out but they can still get those benefits. It’s
again, I don’t wanna say it’s just another supplement but it’s just another
supplement. We’re supplementing our lifestyle so we can have better health.
So I don’t know why everyone’s in such a twit about it. Well, the podcast the other
night he said there’s absolutely no scientific
evidence supporting that bhp is helping people. So we’ve been using the bhp in
our office for two years. And in a very specific, very specific brand that is
most by identical to what our body makes. I use it with my family first my kids my
husband my mom, but I’ve seen patients that I’ve treated for years get
metabolically unstuck. Even doctor Veatch had said, when in the presence of
exogenous ketones our body down regulates insulin. So it’s kind of like
priming the pump or if you’ve had liver issues. I had someone talking to today I
had hepatitis. It’s hard for her to make ketones because your liver actually
makes ketones it goes and grabs a fat unlocks it makes the bhp. If you can help
getting the inflammation down and allowing your own body to make that you
have a much better chance of being successful optimizing your health. So I I’m
like you I just think people should just respect what people want to do with
their healthcare and know that there’s people out there leading the field with
nutrition with research has been around her decades. This isn’t like a new
panacea I know it’s sweeping the nutrition and
wellness space but it needs to because we are fat sick and nearly dead the
stats show us that. It’s just a fad Dr. Heather. Well, I love, I don’t know if I’m
supposed to respond to that. I mean I know the 80s are coming back and you
have plaid so I guess let’s go back a little bit.So I know there’s no fat in
the 80s but Atkins was there in the 80s I just think we need to be we need to
let go of whatever our armor is, whatever our objection is and say you know what I
want to be healthier today. I’m gonna respect what you want to do
for yourself there’s still people out there smoking we have amazing data. I’m
avoiding the question but there’s so much data out there we shouldn’t smoke
and we say don’t smoke in public don’t smoke at the restaurants those folk in
the plane people are still smoking it’s their choice if they don’t want to be
healthy they want to take it they don’t take anything they can still have their
bananas.I don’t care, I mean so if you want to be, if you want to be better,you know you know I know I know you’re not addressing i’m not ketogenic. But
you try to be and you try to teach so every beginner is a winner and inch by
inch is a cinch. This gives people a little bit of room,
so start with breakfast first get rid of this cereal have the bacon and eggs or
have the leftover hot dog, like inch-by-inch is a cinch so we start
little changes. Some people have to go cold turkey pantry clean out not pantry
eat out and then start doing it in there. But we what we have found out those
adding the exogenous ketones help that neuro signaling to reduce
cravings give us better energy the reasons that we overeat and crave things
so this the data is out there it’s coming it’s being done rapidly fast like
you would not believe. I seen again what I didn’t say is, two years in my office
my own family, my own friends, own patients I’ve seen huge transit issues
with hormone balancing not giving them any hormones just simply changing the
diet into ketones in I’ve seen cholesterol change towards the positive
seen inflammation markers go down using you know, a diet more maybe an autoimmune
Paleo ice our autoimmune keto diet but again clothes counts and when you can
have something like exogenous ketone to help get you back into it, maybe
you’re a purist and your body just can’t do it. It’s a great reason to let your
body have the ability or the option to use the ketones. Oh yeah it, it blows my
mind because I wanted to do the ketogenic diet when we first began to
use it so bad. But just because I’m an a-type personality my stress levels are
up here I work on it every day Jesus, Jesus, Jesus and ketones that’s a you
know I’m trying but and then working out hard I, you know, I, I was coming from the
addiction of weightlifting and tearing things up which produces
more cortisols in your body. I like eating protein.
I would eat too much protein it would convert to glucose so for me to have the
ability to you know not be perfect and so strict on a ketogenic diet especially
after coming out of the competitor world with the I have you know if it fits your
macros measuring calorie counting ohh I didn’t want to be that strict, and so the
ketones bridged the gap and they made me feel amazing and I just do the best I
can with high fat low carb and I’ve got a s’more last night and it was really good. But you
can make a keto s’more too. And that’s why i come over to your house. I had somebody over today I just met. She wasn’t able to
come to low-carb Casey. She saw the event she’s like, “I love looking in your refrigerator
where it looks just like mine” you know and you can we can you can get around a
community of people who want to help everybody better, everyone sharing
recipes, everybody’s doing this. We are not swapping pop chart coupons,
we are not swapping s’more coupons, we are swapping keto coupons. But again it
no one’s expected to be perfect and even if you try to be perfect you still can’t
happen I mean you’ve tried it yourself the strip’s get overstressed and
counting every almond gets overstressed but it’s a it’s where we need to go to
help everybody. It’s where we need to go to save our children you know the next
generation is not supposed to outlive us. So I wish people would just be a little
more open to the current credible data and the researchers who are leading this
field I mean Dr. Ron Rosedale talked about this well over a decade ago, top
Thomas some of the top TED Talks are talking about the exact same thing
reversing cholesterol, reversing diabetes with a ketogenic diet. These are real, I
don’t say real doctors. These are people who’ve been doing this with patients in
the clinic in the lab, they’ve read the research they begin through all the
information. I was at the global conference in Canada, everyone around the
world 50 different countries they’re all saying the same thing like to help our
children we have to stop the sugar. So that’s no more pop charts. I know it’s
frustrating we’ve been all over these past two years at these keto
conferences, medical conferences cheering these anecdotal studies but
then seeing these lab research and you just get on Sabian I think it calls for
a Friday crazy claim, so thank you for joining me you you were a sport and I’m glad we
could do this together today and I think there will be four. Hold on a second I
gotta show you the VM I have to show you the sorry it’s loud my house the
doughnuts so I put my phone down here a second It’s not talking about Saturdays y’all. Look at that. Oh yeah
nice did you do the little butter melting on it? We didn’t because they’re
still cooling but we made two batches of them and it’s fabulous like I don’t know
why you’d want anything else? Coconut flour, almond flour, egg whites,
lemon, lemon, lemon zest, a little bit of dark chocolate. We did a little bit of
blueberry so the little bit of high carbs but not much for the whole deal
and they’re fabulous like we could not make them fast enough between the 15
women of us eating them. So if you didn’t see the video today you should go watch
it but I’ll save you a couple maybe. I will, I will awesome. I think next Friday I think we should do
the things that will knock you out of ketosis. That something I’ve been seeing a
lot of, they think they’re strict keto, they think they’re ketogenic, but we we
need to be more aware of the things that are knocking out of ketosis, how about
that does that sound like a good topic? Absolutely and I would love anybody who
joined us let us know what you want to hear like what you’ve been reading out
there, what you’ve been listening to. Maybe a favorite podcast or maybe some
doubting Thomases that we still need to be feeding on sugar 24/7 and that we
still need to be sugar burners. Share what you have out there, I mean, I cannot
possibly read everything out there, can’t possibly listen to every podcast. So I
want you to be our ears and eyes there’s only four eyes between us so we don’t
have time to read everything out there. I’m not on every site, so let us know
what peeps are saying out there and I will do my best to find current credible
information and be, I can say the word is current, be current here with you
today. So if I do share something that we know that
still leading people in the right direction but know that we’re not
perfect but we’re not going to use excuses to be not perfect. I think that’s
what happens when people start getting sugar, “I deserved it, they had a great day
it’s a slumber party” like we should not have excuses.
Fat sick and nearly dead in the US. And Dr. Heather will not let you have
excuses she will absolutely call me out when I do it too,
so, um that means said y’all have an amazing weekend Dr. Heather I’ll be over tomorrow morning
for a donut, cool? Sounds great! Bring your cream. Okay bye guys, bye bye.

Randall Smitham

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  1. Mark Freedman Posted on September 13, 2018 at 2:51 pm

    You're (The Doctor) absolutely wrong about Atkins. Read the books. It's High Fat, Low or No Carbs and Moderate Protein.

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  2. Mark Freedman Posted on September 13, 2018 at 2:57 pm

    Now regarding BHB'S and t he rest of what you both are saying is excellent. BHB Ketones are fantastic a appitite suppressant

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