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Jonathan Hunsaker: Welcome, everyone, to another
episode of Empowering You Organically. I’m your host, Jonathan Hunsaker, joined by
my cohost, TeriAnn Trevenen. TeriAnn Trevenen: Hey, everyone. Jonathan Hunsaker: We have a very special guest today. This is actually one of our Inspired Health Journeys. And we have Suzie Skougard with us. Thank you, Suzie, for joining us. Suzie Skougard: Thank you for having me. Jonathan Hunsaker: This is going to be an
awesome podcast. I’m just reading your bio, reading your history. I’m just super excited to share your story
with the world. TeriAnn, do you want to read through her bio? TeriAnn Trevenen: Absolutely. Suzie is a vegan health coach and blogger
as well as a volunteer Crisis Counselor with Crisis Text Line. She owns a gluten free/vegan bakery just outside
of Lansing, Michigan – Carly Cakes – and they operate under a mission to employ adults
with developmental disabilities and pay them a living wage. So, first and foremost, I just love what you do. I love what you do. Just gives you all those good feelings. And I love bakery treats, too, so I think
everything you’re doing with your profession is incredible, absolutely incredible. Suzie Skougard: Well, thank you so much. It was inspired by my youngest, who has Celiac. So, she also has Down’s Syndrome, and it was
kind of wanting to find a way that she could be included in birthday treats and celebrations. TeriAnn Trevenen: I love that. I love that. Jonathan Hunsaker: Tell us a little bit more about that. Give us some history. Tell us about your health journey and just
what started you on this entire path in life. Suzie Skougard: Okay. Well, my youngest, like I said, while amazing
and perfect was born with Down syndrome as well as a life-threatening heart condition. With that heart condition, we had a couple
of close calls, months of hospital stays, and she ended up having open heart surgery
at four months old. I didn’t really know how to cope with all
of that and because it all happened so fast, I never really got the time to process it,
and I wound up with Postpartum PTSD. My anxiety was through the roof. I was miserable. And to self-medicate, I was eating junk and
drinking a lot of alcohol at night. I was about 55 pounds heavier than I am right now. The extra weight was a strain on my body. I was always tired, I was never able to sleep,
and I was really truly suffering from my Rheumatoid Arthritis. I went to doctor after doctor wanting them
to fix me, they’d prescribe something new, sometimes the side-effects that would made
things worse and for me, and nothing got better. I wasn’t able to be there the way I wanted
to be there for my kids, and the way they needed me, so I kind of had to rethink everything
about how we were living. So, I woke up one day and had just reached my limit. I told my husband that I needed to change. I needed to get healthy even if I wasn’t sure
what healthy even was at this point. And we had both said at various points that
we were going to get healthier, but this time I told him that I meant it and I would do
it with, or without him. That night, his blood pressure got to dangerous
levels and he collapsed to the floor. He was hospitalized. And it was that moment of realizing that that
situation could have resulted in a serious stroke, complete kidney failure, or even death,
that was the wakeup call that it was now or never, and thankfully, we were in this together
and we were going to do these changes together. Jonathan Hunsaker: It’s just hard for me to
hear the story, because you sometimes have to hit that rock bottom to make that change. And I just can’t imagine. I mean it was one thing after another after
another that was just stacking up against you, and I can imagine just being up against
the wall at that point, putting your arms up like “Enough is enough. It’s time to do something.” And unfortunately, a lot of people don’t do
something, right? They continue to talk about doing something,
they continue to think about doing something, they want to do something, but then they stay
on the same path. And so, I love that you did something. What was the biggest change that you made? What was that big something? Suzie Skougard: Well, before we-before he
even got home from the hospital, I cleared out all the alcohol and high-salt foods from our house. But the doctors gave very little other direction
for us to follow. But I knew I needed to started cooking more. And I didn’t totally understand what the best
options for us were then, nutritionally, but looking back, I see that I still established
that routine of daily cooking and meal prep, and we were able to cut-out fast food and
restaurant meals. I started doing daily yoga, first at home
using Yoga by Adrienne free videos on YouTube, and then once I was comfortable enough, I
found a studio and a gym. I also began heavily relying on Buddhist philosophy
to unscramble the PTSD, which led me to a new understanding about the nature of suffering. Like, we have physical pain, and the pain
of loss and change, but then there is also pervasive pain. Say, if we were injured in an accident, we’d
have the physical pain of the accident, the suffering or change of our car being totaled,
but we would also have the pervasive pain, which is the pain we can control. And in that imaginary accident scenario, it
might be worrying what everyone else is going to think about us, it might be replaying over
and over what we could have done differently. We can’t truly control physical pain or the
pain of loss or change. They are going to happen, but we can control
pervasive pain, and who doesn’t want to hurt less? So the rest of the journey grew from my desire
to reduce the pervasive suffering that I was putting out into the world and to free my
mind from it. The day I woke up and began a different life
for our family, I didn’t wake up with any less depression or anxiety than I had the day before. I didn’t wake up with less swollen, or achy
joints than I had the day before. I didn’t wake up with more money, or less
on my plate. We were all extremely sick. There was nothing good that changed to lead
us in that direction. Nothing about our situation really changed,
but the way that I looked at it did. TeriAnn Trevenen: So, I think there’s a few
good points there in what you shared. I mean first of all, you talked about being
in the hospital and really not being given any advice. I think that there’s definitely a place and
purpose for modern medicine and what conventional medicine can do, but one thing that we know,
and is fact, is that a lot of doctors aren’t trained and they don’t have a lot
of education in nutrition. And so, I think that’s one place where, when
you face a really big health scare like your family faced, that people really have to dig
deep, because most of the time, the answer is “Here’s a pill to fix what’s wrong,” which
really creates more symptoms and more issues. But really, it’s like “What are you eating? And what are you going to change?” And even if they ask you that question and
go down that path, it’s such a small list of things that they’ll walk through with you
to talk about how you can change your health. And so, I think you taking that initiative
to go out and say, “I’m getting all this out of my house, I’m bringing this into my house,
and I’m going to make this lifestyle change” is a huge step that a lot of people never make
because they feel like it’s such a daunting task. But it’s one of the best changes you can make. Nutrition impacts every aspect of our lives
in ways we can’t even imagine, and it’s not something that we’re talked to about frequently
when it comes to going to the doctor, facing health issues, getting our health back on
track, but it’s such a critical component of our health. And I think the second thing that you talked
about that was really, really important is, it’s not just about our physical health, but
it’s about our emotional health and wellbeing, which we also don’t talk about this enough,
but our emotional health and wellbeing is extremely tied to how we feel physically and vice versa. And so, I think it’s really powerful, in sharing
your story, that you made big changes for your family with nutrition and emotional wellbeing,
but you didn’t notice the changes right away. It’s not like some big massive thing happened
the next day. Massive change requires massive action, but
to see the success of that action takes time. It’s a process. It’s not like instant gratification. Good health, long-term health is a long journey
and a long process, and it doesn’t ever look the same from day to day. It changes day to day because our bodies are
constantly changing. So, I mean it’s a really powerful message. Suzie Skougard: Thank you. Yeah. And it really did come down to just baby steps. Like you know how everybody is into Marie
Kondo and “The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up?” Well, I started “Marie Kondo-ing” my brain. All our routines, everything that we ate,
I would examine everything we did objectively. So, what was I putting into my body? Did it bring me joy? And there were a lot of foods I just ate or
served out of habit, mindlessly, that I didn’t even like, that the family didn’t even like. My kids had the same amount of “Ew” factor
to dishes that I would put down then that they do occasionally now. So, there were foods, that I did like and
I could say they also did bring me joy, but maybe they weren’t the best option to build
my diet around. So I started reflecting on what joy actually
meant to me. Was it a temporary moment derived from immediate
pleasure? Or was it the kind that came from being the
kind of parent I wanted to be, from having a body I could be comfortable in, and joints
that weren’t angry and screaming at me all of the time? And in that moment of reflection and pause
before eating, there was that breakthrough. The novelty of “a treat” would wear off and
I wouldn’t feel like I was actually missing out on anything by picking a healthier treat
because I was actively choosing, in that moment, health. So, my focus was progress not perfection,
and those little daily choices led us to the point where we could start making big changes overall. TeriAnn Trevenen: Yeah, and I think that’s
a really important point. I think that overall theme of what you’re sharing. Here’s this choice. You had that choice, and you made choices,
and those choices brought about the success you’re now seeing with your family and your health. And it’s just those choices, moment to moment,
day to day, week to week, that build on one another and bring that relief your family
was looking for of better health and going on a journey of health that would benefit
every member of your family, which is really powerful. Choices, I think one of the most powerful
things we have, and it’s one of the most difficult things to face as far as we have to choose
for ourselves things that make life better, and it’s harder for people to do than we can
even imagine. It’s such a big thing to take that first step in the
unknown, especially when it comes to your body, and say, “I’m doing something drastically different.” It’s so hard. Jonathan Hunsaker: Well, you know? And I did a video about this a few days ago. I think a lot of people get lost in the planning,
and they get lost in the perfection, right? So, “I’m going to…” “This is exactly what we’re going to eat,
and we’re going to eat every single day, and we’re going to do this, and we’re going to
work out.” And they create this whole plan, which might
take weeks to create, which helps procrastinate taking that first step, and then you start
following that plan, and all of a sudden, reality hits. It’s not like you thought it would be in your head. There’s all these shifts, all these pivots,
all these things you have to do. And the best thing to do is, you don’t need
to make a plan, just get started taking some sort of action, right? Just clean the alcohol out of the house. Then, what’s the next step? Let’s start cooking home-cooked meals. They may not all be clean, they may not all
be organic, they may not all be healthy, but let’s get out of the habit of eating at restaurants. Let’s get out of the habit of eating the junk
processed foods. And slowly, it will get better and better. I mean and that’s what you’re sharing. It’s like I mean you would get to a point to where
it was a healthy treat that you would choose. But that-not all of that starts on day one. It’s all just a process of just introducing
your body into this new way of living and to eating, and it doesn’t all have to be done overnight. TeriAnn Trevenen: Absolutely. Jonathan Hunsaker: So, talk to use about what
are some of the changes that you made in your diet? Suzie Skougard: Well, getting rid of soda
was a huge one for me. I was a massive diet Coke drinker. I drank-there was a day that I drank 24 cans
of Diet Coke. Jonathan Hunsaker: Wow! Suzie Skougard: I’m not even exaggerating. TeriAnn Trevenen: Wow! Suzie Skougard: I knew that that was one of
the ones that had to go right away. So, I began to learn about the environmental
toll that processed foods take on our planet. I learned that there are 844 million people,
that’s one in 10 of our global population currently affected by the Global Water Crisis. So, every day, more than 800 children under
five die without access to clean drinking water. So, when you think about the fact that it
takes 132 gallons of water to make a 2-liter bottle of soda, that’s 132 gallons that would
mean a chance at life to someone else. And I know that just because I’m not drinking
it, doesn’t mean that a single life will be saved, but as part of the reducing suffering,
that meant removing myself from cycles where I was actively contributing. And then we started making the shift to sustainable
living, and it was that environmental avenue that lead me to Veganism. I watched a few vegan documentaries on Netflix,
and from the reduce the suffering angle, I knew 100 percent that it was the next big
step we needed to make. I could not support factory farms and I wanted
to combat climate change as best as I could. But I had hesitations. There are unhealthy vegans, and I didn’t want
to end up in just a new way to be unhealthy. So, I really started researching the vegan
diet for evidence-based improvements. And through that, I found the Whole Foods
Plant Based lifestyle. Eating Whole Foods Plant Based has been linked
to a number of health benefits, including reducing and even reversing heart disease, certain
cancers, obesity, diabetes and cognitive decline. In order to make that transition for our family,
I took a couple of Whole Foods Plant Based Nutrition courses and read How Not to Die
by Dr. Michael Greger over and over and over so that I would be armed with all of the information
that we would need to be successful. And I’m going to clarify that when I’m talking
about the Whole Foods Plant Based lifestyle, it has absolutely nothing to do with the store
Whole Foods. It is just a way to say, minimally processed,
and nothing added, nothing taken away from your food. That means no meat, no cheeses, no eggs, no
refined sugar, no cooking oil, even olive. That means that when you look at a label for
Peanut Butter, it says: peanuts. And we eat our beans, berries, fruits, cruciferous
veggies, greens, flaxseed and nuts every day. We do supplement our B-vitamins, but we also
use a lot of a Nutritional Yeast so we get some in through our food. I also make sure the kids get plenty of fats
for their developing brains, but they get it from things like avocado, or flax milk,
so that they don’t have that saturated fat or the hormones that dairy milk has. Flax Milk actually is a better source of calcium,
protein and omega-3 than dairy. So, cutting out processed foods also made
it easier for our whole household to keep gluten at bay for my Celiac daughter, drastically
cutting her risk of cross-contamination, improved her health dramatically. Her skin got better, her stomach bloat went
away, and leading me to find that gluten was also making my Rheumatoid Arthritis worse,
it was contributing to inflammation. I started a daily routine of celery juice,
amla, turmeric and ginger, that I toss everything in all together and drink it every morning,
and I have never felt better. TeriAnn Trevenen: Awesome. Yeah, and it’s interesting, you talking about
your-the diet with your kids. I don’t even like to call it a diet. I really don’t like that word. So, I shouldn’t use that word. But I think everybody has different choices
in their nutrition and how they eat and how they do things. But I think something really interesting about
your story is that-we just did a podcast last week on kids, and kids eating healthier, and
how it’s impacting our emotions and their behavior, and how it’s impacting their success in school. And you’re a perfect example of someone who’s
taken this new way of life for you and your family. Your choice, which is the most important thing,
that you have a choice in how your family eats, but once you make that choice, people
are so scared to dive into that with their kids and their family. But I think we live in a day and age where
there’s so much information available, right? I’ve used a lot of the different things that
you just talked about to cook, and while I’m not vegan, they’re-all of these things you’ve
talked about in your nutrition for your family and how you’re cooking, there are so many
creative ways to cook for kids that they will like the food and they can enjoy the food. I think people hear, like “You cook at home
and you make really healthy food for your kids. Do they even eat? Do you guys eat? How do you even eat anything
that sounds good or fun?” And it’s like I think it’s such a misconception, right? Like I love hearing your story because there
are so many ways to cook at home and make it fun and make it taste good, and I think
some of the misconceptions, whether you’re keto, or you’re vegan, or whatever it is that
you eat, I think people always have these stigmas of like “Well then their food just
must not be good,” or “Their kids must not eat their food.” And I love that you’ve kind of just taken
the bull by the horns and you’re like Yes, we can do this. Yes, there are creative ways for my kids to eat. Yes, there are options for us.” And look at all these different things that
you and your family eat. And that’s such a powerful testimonial to
the fact that we can make choices for our family, find creative ways to make those choices
work and have a happier, healthier family. Super powerful. Jonathan Hunsaker: And I love the idea that
you changed it for your whole family, right? So, your daughter has Celiac, and so it was
like “Let’s get rid of everything in the house that’s gluten,” right? And so, it’s not just her that has to eat
different, or that’s treated differently. You’re following it, your husband’s following it, right? You’re feeding it to the whole family, which
I think makes it that much easier, because somebody isn’t being left out, or they don’t
get the treats, or they don’t get-and so, yeah, just I think it was all really effective
the way that you did it, and I love the clarity around whole foods. We talk about whole foods plant-based diets
a lot, we’ve got Ocean Robbins on here, we’ve had a lot of people that follow a whole food
plant-based diet. And yeah, we’re not talking about Whole Foods
the place, we’re talking- TeriAnn Trevenen: It’s sad, that in this day
and age, a lot of people think that whole foods diets are from- Jonathan Hunsaker: From Whole Foods, right? TeriAnn Trevenen: True story. But it is true, yeah. Jonathan Hunsaker: We’re just talking about
the way it was grown outside, right? Suzie Skougard: Yeah. Jonathan Hunsaker: In boxes and
bags and processed and ground up and all of that, just the way it was meant to be grown. TeriAnn Trevenen: So many kids are going to
grow up in this generation and think “What’s a whole food?” Which is really sad. I think that things are changing. I think that that’s coming back into the forefront
of people’s minds, how we’re eating and supplementing, all of the things that we discuss on this
podcast, that so many kids, you would say whole foods, and they’d be like “What is that?” Jonathan Hunsaker: They’ve got no idea. TeriAnn Trevenen: They have no idea, no idea. Jonathan Hunsaker: Alright, so you’ve got
to tell us, what was the biggest obstacle that you faced on this journey? Suzie Skougard: Well, there were a lot of,
like you were talking about, a lot of misconceptions about the Whole Foods Plant Based lifestyle. So, everybody always asks me if it’s about
us getting protein. And veggies, you have a surprising amount of protein. Broccoli has a higher protein per calorie
ratio than steak. Obviously, you have to eat a lot of broccoli
to get that, but it still has a higher protein per calorie ratio than steak. And when you’re eating nothing but a lot of
different types of veggies and a lot of different types of nuts and grains, it’s really easy
to make it up. It also was a lot easier getting the kids
to adopt the changes than I even thought that it would be. My son was an incredibly picky eater, mostly
in part with his endocrine disorder, and they adapted quite quickly. We created a routine around it, so they started
helping with the dinners, getting them involved in their food choices and empowering them
to make the right choices, and explaining to them “There’s this one, and this one will
do this for your body, or there’s this one, and this one’s not going to do this, and it
might make you feel a little bit sick to your tummy. But you can make the choice.” And just kind of empowering them to make that
choice for themselves. It was actually a lot easier getting the kids
to adopt the changes than I expected it to be. My son was an incredibly picky eater. But they adapted quite quickly because we
created a whole routine around it, and they could help. Even the youngest one could still find something
to do, whether it was just helping prepare the salads. And my littlest one, the one with Down’s Syndrome,
likes to tear lettuce. And we just give her her own little bowl of
lettuce that she can sit and tear up while everybody’s cooking. And she gets to participate just as much. So, we taught them about why we were making
those changes, too. and the bottom line, it was just the food that was available. If there’s no junk to really choose from in
the cupboards, they aren’t going to pick it. It’s just not there. If they have a choice between, “Okay, I have
an apple or a banana,” they still feel like they’re making a decision. Their palates then changed over time, and
now they prefer healthier foods, saying other foods, processed foods, when we go to a birthday
or party or something, I do let them have whatever cupcakes are served, but they’ll
usually opt not to, saying that it’s too sweet. TeriAnn Trevenen: Love it. Suzie Skougard: Yeah. And everyone also thinks that it is so much
more expensive to eat this way, but really it’s only buying the Organic/Gluten Free processed
foods that carry that real heavy price tag. I feed our family of 6 a gluten free, vegan
diet full of color and vitamins, 3 meals a day for about 100.00 a week. And we were probably spending that on Starbucks,
soda, beer and wine alone before the change. The only real challenge is that it does require
a lot of prep, whether meal planning, or prepping ahead of time. I make our plant-based milks, I make all of
our fruit spreads, every meal is from scratch, and I also work on top of it all. But it is worth making the time for. It’s a choice knowing that I am giving my
kids the best start I can. It feels really good to see them go back for
seconds of an all-vegetable dish. And it’s important to keep in mind that fast-food
options don’t really save any time or money when you look at what they cost you later
on in terms of health and quality of life. Jonathan Hunsaker: I mean listen, if you can
go to a fast food place and you can get 10 chicken nuggets for $1, I don’t think that’s
chicken, number one. Number two, it’s definitely not healthy. There’s no nutrients in it. You know what I mean? And we get sucked into this idea that it’s
more convenient, that it’s cheaper. And quite frankly, we get sucked into the
idea that we need food all the time, right? Food is everywhere. You drive down the street and you constantly
just are advertised food, food, food, food, food. And so, when you make that shift to cooking
at home, when you make that shift to prepping your own meals, and prepping like that, one,
you know everything that’s going into it, so there is no question, you don’t need to
ask if it’s organic or not, or “What have you used?” or anything like that. But ultimately, it is cheaper, right? And I think that you get family time that
we lose a lot of times now. I mean I love that you talk about having your
family involved, and your daughter’s tearing up the lettuce, and they get to choose this
or that, an apple or a banana. And so, it’s just sometimes, listen, I love
technology, I love what technology does for our world in a lot of ways, but I think in
a lot of things, we need to take a step back to how we used to do it as well. I think that it can be abused. And I love the idea of stepping back and doing
the meal prep, I mean having that family time. And likely, the TV is off and the electronics are away. And so, these are times that you’ll never
get back again with your kids. And so, I love all those activities. TeriAnn Trevenen: Yeah, let’s just go back
to one tiny little point. So, you have a family of six, correct? Suzie Skougard: Yeah. TeriAnn Trevenen: Six? I just want to say one more time that she
said three meals a day for about $100 a week. So, anyone who says you can’t eat clean because
it’s too expensive, she just proved you wrong. That’s insane. I mean that’s incredible. And so, I just wanted to point that out, because
a lot of people, that’s one of the misconceptions, that you can’t eat as healthy on a-a healthy
diet on a budget, but you can. Everyone thinks that organic, whole food,
meal plans and prepping and groceries are so expensive, but you’re living proof right there,
$100 a week for six people eating healthy foods. Jonathan Hunsaker: Well, you’re not going
to be eating Doritos, right? You’re not going to be eating all of this
other junk that you think “I’m going to miss it,” but you won’t. In a couple weeks, your palate changes, right? TeriAnn Trevenen: Yep. Jonathan Hunsaker: And you’ll start craving
the fruits, the vegetables, the healthier foods. And so, yes, you will go through withdrawal
for a couple weeks, but if you make that change, it’s that much easier the longer that you do it. TeriAnn Trevenen: Absolutely. So, what would your three biggest tips for
other people out there who are facing health scares with their family, needing to make
the change, needing to take control of their health and their life,
what would you say to them? Suzie Skougard: You don’t have to make a sudden shift. You don’t need to throw out
everything processed in one go. Just maybe the next time you go to pick up
burger meat, don’t, and grill a portobello cap instead and see how you like it. Instead of milk, try a plant-based alternative
and then go from there. I would also say turmeric and ginger. Add them to everything. And drink a ton of water. I drink over a gallon of water a day. I even have one sitting right next to me right now. And then, the very last one would be to Marie
Kondo your brain. Don’t mindlessly snack, pause and reflect
before you eat, consider what that food is bringing into your life. If you don’t need what it has to offer, if
you don’t want that contributing to your overall wellbeing, then just thank it, and let it go. TeriAnn Trevenen: So, really quickly, Marie
Kondo is a professional organizer. She has books, she’s well-known throughout
the world. Remind me really quickly, because it’s been
a while since I’ve seen some things on her. Like she asks, like when she’ll go through
people’s houses and organize their house, she’ll ask certain questions. Do you know off the top of your head what
some of those are, what some of the questions she asks people when it comes to like their
personal belongings? Suzie Skougard: Yeah, so like it’s just kind
of like the first, the big one, “Does it spark joy? Does it really spark joy?” TeriAnn Trevenen: That’s right. Suzie Skougard: And there might be a food
that’s maybe not so healthy that does spark joy for you, that-our food has such strong
ties to holidays, celebrations, meals, our families that we grew up with. And I think that it’s still totally reasonable
to still include elements of that. It just doesn’t have to be your everyday. TeriAnn Trevenen: Yeah. Suzie Skougard: It doesn’t have to make up
every meal you have. You can find a way to substitute different
pieces of that meal with maybe a healthier option. And if it’s made cooked in a heavy cream,
maybe try a little bit of something else, maybe a plant-based alternative, and see if
it still gives you that happy sparked joy feeling. And then, as far as anything else, I’m blanking. Sorry. TeriAnn Trevenen: No, you’re totally fine. I love that you said that, because if you
think about it long-term, for your brain first and foremost, does it spark joy? Because I think a lot of us live in our minds
in a way that doesn’t serve a purpose. I think we, going back to what you talked
about with suffering, I think we create needless suffering in our lives, we create needless
guilt and shame in our lives. And when you say, “Does it spark joy?” I remember now seeing some of the things where
she would go through people’s houses, and like “Hold it, feel it. How does it feel for you?” When you think about that with your mind,
it’s like “Does it spark joy?” If it doesn’t, then why are you holding it
there, and why does it-what do you need to flush it out? And I think the same goes with food. If you really tie food to happiness, yes,
that Diet Coke might make you happy in the moment, but how is it going to make you feel
long-term? And if you take it even one step further,
it’s like looking at your food options, I think snacking is so prevalent now, and I’m
not saying you should snack or you shouldn’t snack, I’m not telling people how to eat,
I’m just saying, you go into the pantry and you’re like “I’m going to eat this and this
and this,” and we’re just constantly bombarded with food, but we’re not thoughtful about it. Often, we just go through the motions instead
of thinking “Does this serve a purpose for me? Does this feel good? Is this going to make me feel good?” It’s not even just about joy with food, it’s
like “How am I going to feel after I eat this?” Yeah, it’s fun to eat things that are joyful
every once in a while, that treat that you love to eat, or that thing that you love to
eat that may not be what you would consider the healthiest thing, but every once in a while. Other foods, it’s like looking at it,
“Do I need to eat this right now? Am I going to feel good because I ate this?” And so, I love that concept of Marie Kondo
your brain first of all, because I think “Does it spark joy?” And if it doesn’t, then why are you doing it? Why do you feel it? Why are you thinking that? Why are you living in that space? And I think the same goes for food. Why are you eating it? Why is it part of your diet? Why are you going through this process? I think if people thought about that a lot
more with their food, they would make better choices. Thoughtful about your food. Jonathan Hunsaker: It’s just being intentional, right? TeriAnn Trevenen: Yeah, I love that word. Jonathan Hunsaker: And I think that we coast
through life in a lot of ways, and we do that with our food. All of a sudden, I feel something in my stomach. Let me go run and grab some food for it. When you really just might be thirsty and
you need some water. Or you’re walking past the pantry and you’re
kind of bored, “Ah, I’ve got 20 minutes to kill. Let me grab a bag of this. Let me grab…” But we’re really not hungry. TeriAnn Trevenen: Or we’re sad, and we’re
like “Let me go eat food,” instead of “Why do I feel these feelings and what can I do
to bring me joy right now?” too. Jonathan Hunsaker: And I don’t even know what
we always even identify the feeling. We just-maybe you are sad and you just go
grab some food, and if you just stop for a second and ask yourself “Am I really hungry?”
you may think “Holy crap, I don’t need to eat this whole box of ice cream.” TeriAnn Trevenen: Yeah. Jonathan Hunsaker: You know? Or whatever it is, your pleasure. So, I think it’s about being intentional. And I think a lot of it is about slowing down. We are in such a fast-paced world, and technology
has helped with a lot of that. Just stop and take a breath, and think about
what you’re doing before you’re doing it, and ask the question “Why?” That, to me, I think is some of the best advice
in the world is ask yourself why before you do a lot of things. Because once you’re clear on it, then you
know you’re at least making a conscious decision to eat the treat or not eat the treat, or
whatever it is. TeriAnn Trevenen: Yeah, absolutely. Suzie, so all this has been so amazing. I’ve loved hearing your journey, I’ve loved
hearing what you’ve been through. I think so many people are going to be able
to relate to your story, and so many people are going to be able to say, like “I get that. I get that,” or “I love they made that change. I can do that, too.” This is a real-life story, a massive health
scare, which unfortunately, is the reason a lot of people change. But look at how it’s benefited your life. And if there’s other people who are facing
this, they’re going to hear your story and say like “I need to make that change before
it gets to that point.” And so, I appreciate you being vulnerable
and sharing your story. It’s a powerful story and it’s not always
easy to say, “Like we were at this point. It was so bad. This is [0:42:01]. I ate like this, and I had this many Diet
Cokes in a day.” Like some people don’t want to share that. But I love that you opened up and shared your
story, and it’s a real-life story, so relatable for so many people. My last question today is a question that
I often ask of people on the podcast. You’ve been through such an amazing journey,
from where your family was with your health, and eating the standard American diet, to
changing your diet, changing your mindset, opening a bakery that serves such a major
purpose in your life for multiple reasons. What would be the one thing that you would
say to people? If you could only say one more thing to the
world about their health and their health journey, what would be the last thing you
would say to people? Suzie Skougard: I’d want them to know that
there is no finish line on the path to wellness, the continued journey is the goal. So, you can’t fail at this. Obviously, someone could say, if you aren’t
their perceived picture of healthy, then you failed, but you have to be able to give yourself
some grace. No one starts their journey to wellness in
the same place. We all have different experiences that have
led us to where we are and have led us to different decisions. We were exposed to different food, and to
different people. Suzie Skougard: So, if you take a look at
me, and you look at Simone Biles, I’m not going to come close to *that* image of health
ever in my life. But for where I started just a few short years
ago, and for where I am now, the amount of change I have adapted to, I am doing quite
well, substantially better than where I was when I started. So, every day that commit yourselves
to being on a journey, you are changing. You are becoming. And if things are in a continual state of
change, motion, and becoming, then there is never really an end. Every day presents a new opportunity to get
better, to learn something new, to show compassion to ourselves, others, animals and our planet. And kind of like with that Marie Kondo-ing
our brain, every second really is a new chance to make a new choice. TeriAnn Trevenen: Love it. And I love how you said becoming,
we’re constantly becoming. I’ve had this conversation with friends before
about becoming. We’re always becoming a better version of
ourselves, always becoming new things, and that’s a beautiful thing about life. And I think that’s the beautiful thing about
your health journey. It’s one story that be something that so many
people relate to, but then they can go and take what they need from your story, from
other stories, from other places where they can get information on health and choose for
them what looks best and change their lives. So, I love your story. Thank you so much for sharing it with us today. Thank you for being with us. It’s been incredible to hear it. Jonathan Hunsaker: Yeah, Suzie, thank you
so much. Suzie Skougard: Thank you for having me. Jonathan Hunsaker: So, tell us the name, again,
of your bakery, so people, when they’re in Lansing, Michigan, can stop by and see you. Suzie Skougard: It’s Carly Cakes. Jonathan Hunsaker: Carly Cakes. And do you have a website? Do you have an Instagram? Suzie Skougard: I have @CarlyCakesGFV on Instagram. TeriAnn Trevenen: Awesome. Jonathan Hunsaker: Excellent. TeriAnn Trevenen: Love it. Jonathan Hunsaker: We’re going to have links
to everything on our website, EmpoweringYouOrganically. We’ll have links to the different books that
you recommended on there, just kind of more of your whole story. We’ll have the transcript; we have the show
notes and any other links there that are pertinent to the show. Any last words? Anything else you want to share? TeriAnn Trevenen: No, just love this experience today. Lots of good information, for sure. Jonathan Hunsaker: Suzie, thank you so much
for taking the time. I know you’re going to inspire others, and
you have been an inspiration. So, thank you for all that you do and thank
you for sharing your story with all of us. Suzie Skougard: Thank you so much.

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